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20 Mar 2009

Atkinson's Gay Hate Law Attack

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Mr Bean star, Rowan Atkinson, beloved across the world for taking the piss out of odd people, has lashed out at hate speech legislation in the UK in an attempt to influence the House of Lords to vote against the British government's attempt to remove a free speech clause in a homophobic hatred offence.

He addressed the House of Lords saying, "Do you think I would risk prosecution because of jokes or drama about sexual orientation with which I might be involved if we don't have the free speech clause?"

In a time the world hardly remembers, comedians joked about racial stereotypes with impunity. Black men were all called Samba and behaved like monkeys, chinese people were yellow and slitty-eyed and took orders for 'flied lice', and so on and on. Nowadays such stereotyping of people who were born into one race or another (other than Caucasian) for laughs would be unthinkable.

Would Rowan Atkinson have lashed out at the laws that eradicated such base racism? Laws that effectively changed the mindset about race, and made it safer to be a other than Caucasian in Britain?

Gay stereotypes in comedy not only offend - they harm. They encourage schoolchildren to bully other childen by imitating them in a 'gay' fashion, leading some of those children to commit suicide.

Gay stereotypes in comedy encourage would-be gay bashers to go out and beat up and sometimes kill gay men because they are perceived to be 'less than' and an easy, valid target for vitriol and violence.

In defending the right to create comedy about sexual orientation, Atkinson is defending the right to victimise people who were born gay.

Underneath the bluster, he obviously believes that we choose our sexual orientation.


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dannyzuko

What about gay men who do the same comedy, sending up gay stereotypes. People like Graham Norton or the gay men behind Will & Grace, who created Jack, a gay-condoned version of Mr Humphries from Are You Being Served? Do you think they would be all for this legislation or not?

POSTED BY dannyzuko 20 Mar 2009


Queer Duck

When gay people do it, it doesn't count. Black comedians use the 'n' word all the time, and it's fully acceptable. It's when straight people stereotype us that damage is being done. Well done on Spin radio this afternoon, Ed - you told it like it is!

POSTED BY Queer Duck 20 Mar 2009


LauraD

Alan Carr is funny BECAUSE he is gay. If a straight person told the same jokes, they wouldn't have the same effect. Saying its okay for us to do it is a cop out. We need to either set the tone or get thicker skin but we cannot pick and choose what pisses us off one day but is okay the next.

POSTED BY LauraD 20 Mar 2009


Scott

I find it interesting he sends up odd people.Do these laws include the disabled,specfically the mentally ill.This is probably not the appropriate place for this but I never see any stories on mental health and sexuality. It has even suggested to me by gays after being the victim of serious crime based on my disability that it was my fault because im a twat, and should not dare criticise Irish society for disability discrimination.When I was in Leeds a girl with schizophrenia was murdered in a hate crime and while in Australia one of our members of a MH consumer network was beaten to an inch of his life in an attack motivated by homophobia and disability.But I still see gays who have robust predujice against the mentally ill.I left Dublin because of the predujice and found tolerance elsewhere but certainly not acceptance.Recently in Dublin I was verbally attacked by a gay man because I suggested the MI were a marginalised group who are often victims of discrimination and hate crime.B....

POSTED BY Scott 21 Mar 2009


Scott

But the point is humour is usually at someones expense and do we criminalise every angle of pokig fun. I agree with these laws as homophobic humour was hurtful growing up but hearing jokes about psychos and nutters by my gay family cuts me much deeper.Theres a mental health worker in Outhouse now so thats a huge step.Religous groups should not be able to attack us for our intrinsic sexual orientation ,just like racists.

POSTED BY Scott 21 Mar 2009


tag

great interview, heard ya on spin as well, had only tuned in a bit before it and didn't know it was in relation to this until now. i had re-read the heralds hq mag that evening and thought it might have been about that as there was a rather unusual column in it by someone who i think is a comedian also.

POSTED BY tag 21 Mar 2009


Glamorama

I am very much opposed to limiting freedom of speech when it comes to criticising religion. Religious belief is freely chosen and entirely voluntary. Sexual orientation; race; gender ; physical or mental ability are involuntary so they should not be the subject of crass jokes.

POSTED BY Glamorama 25 Mar 2009


I think that a comedian mincing about, imitating a gay man, is about as bad as it gets. It's the lowest point of comedy, sadder than a mother-in-law joke. The fact that Rowan Atkinson wants to save such low rent laughs says an awful lot about the man himself - not only about his homophobia, but his standards of entertainment.

POSTED BY 25 Mar 2009


Peter B

So what's the deal then? Can nobody look sideways at gay culture without being charged with incitement to hatred? There is a difference between impacting someone rights in society and them being actively discriminated against, and a comedian taking 'the piss' on stage. And in relation to the stereotypes: as far as I can see there are significant cohorts of gay people who do more to promote this than any comedian. Incitement to hatred legislation is there for exactly that - it's not incitement to 'taking the piss'. Hatred is intense dislike or illwill. Let's keep our eye on the important stuff and stop creating, or seeking out, issues.

POSTED BY Peter B 26 Mar 2009


Peter B

I agree with you Lindy. Similarily when I see local drag queens and the likes on stage, attempting to be funny, with their self styled, predictable 'gay' humour, peppered with bad language, I feel as if I've walked into the gutter of comedy. It's dreadful stuff.

POSTED BY Peter B 26 Mar 2009


Peter B

Scott I agree with you too and what you say is representative of a wider issue among many gay people. Basically it's alright for us to do what we like, say what we like, say it about whoever we like, whatever way we like, BUT if anyone attempts to do the same to gay people, we will scream 'discrimination', 'gay rights', 'incitement to hatred' and so on and on and on. It shows a total and utter lack of maturity and tolerance. If I wasn't gay it would irritate me enough to want to take the piss out of gay people. We can't have it all our own way, life doesn't work like that.

POSTED BY Peter B 26 Mar 2009


dannyzuko

Are you sure you're gay, Peter B? If you are, you need help.

POSTED BY dannyzuko 26 Mar 2009


Hunter

No matter what you say, Peter, the truth is that hyper-stereotyping of gay men in comedy leads to kids who might be a little bit camp being mercilessly teased in the playground, imitated and derided, for being gay. And in many, many cases, the world over, this leads to suicide. It also leads to self-hatred, something you might be familiar with.

POSTED BY Hunter 26 Mar 2009


Peter B

Perhaps you might explain Dannyzuko? And to answer your question, I'm quite positive that I'm gay. Why do you ask? You have a point Hunter, but is it not gay people who do most of the stereotyping - Alan Carr and Graham Norton come to mind immediately. I would suggest that camp or effeminate children would be taunted irrespective and it's desperately unfortunate, but that's another topic completely.

POSTED BY Peter B 26 Mar 2009


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POSTED BY wadeben 13 Apr 2009


mayoman

Hi, can you put some light on the situation in galway,where there are 2 pride groups,surly a group formed by 2008 chairperson on april 17th is the legal one?just looking for answer?

POSTED BY mayoman 19 May 2009


mayoman

Hi, can you put some light on the situation in galway,where there are 2 pride groups,surly a group formed by 2008 chairperson on april 17th is the legal one?just looking for answer?

POSTED BY mayoman 19 May 2009


Peter B

Having lived in Galway and experienced the so called gay scene there, I'm unsurprised Mayo!

POSTED BY Peter B 24 Jun 2009


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