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25 Oct 2008

Dead right wingers

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What is it about far right politics and gays? I had an immediate knee jerk dislike of Pim Fortuyn, the murdered gay far-right Dutch politician, and the revelation (his far-right party colleague and lover out-mourning his wife at the funeral was the subtle give away) that Jorg Haider, the dead Austrian far-right leader, was also a gay, made me feel queasy.

Immediately, the idea of homosexuals supporting and building far-right organisations within democracies just seems plain wrong. Why are they consorting with our 'natural' enemies? Are they so self-hating that they want to make life a little harder for their 'fellows'? Are they subconsciously seeking revenge for being rebuffed by some hot guy or series of hot guys when they were young and vulnerable?

That's seems a bit easy. If you look at the policies both Pim Fortuyn and Jorg Haider were most concerned with, they are all to do with immigration and the place of religion in Dutch and Austrian society. Both claimed that allowing many thousands of Muslims to settle in their respective countries and, because of lazily applied ideas of political correctness and tolerance, to allow them to live entirely by the moral systems of their countries of origin (so for example, Sharia law in Muslim-dominated areas - an idea that has been mooted in the UK), it would result in damage to the secular coherence Westerners take for granted.

Of course, it's not much more than a little goose step from this point of view to a more active fascist place and we don't have much choice but to continue with the liberal hope that people relieved of state or religious oppression, while maintaining their cultural heritage, will also absorb and even begin to believe ideas of personal freedom and the individual's right to dignity.

However, the lesson for gays of Haider and Fortuyn is that we shouldn't take anything for granted. Gays have it relatively easy in the West right now, but who knows what it will be like in the near future, as the apparently inevitable demographic shift to a more 'Southern' society happens?


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True Blue

I disagree with this comment. Why can't gay people be right wing? Why should gay people be labelled with one particular political belief ,i.e, left wing? As far as I know both Pim Fortuyn and Jorg Haider had no issue with homosexuals.Wasn't it the socialists that persecuted homosexuals? Fidel Castro and the former Eastern European countries anyone?

POSTED BY True Blue 05 Nov 2008


henry

Not really sure what your point is True Blue? I think what you are saying that it is okay to be xenophobic and racist just not anti gay? However normally right wing politicians use these three together.

POSTED BY henry 05 Nov 2008


henry

Also I think you will find that Cuba is a Communist country not a Socialist one.

POSTED BY henry 05 Nov 2008


True Blue

Henry, what I'm trying to say is that I don't like being pigeon-holed because of my sexuality. I refuse to be put in a box and labelled. Stephen Meyler automatically assumes that Mr Fortuyn and Mr Haider had particular right wing views because of their homosexuality (that went wrong somewhere)? A persons sexuality has nothing to do with their politics. It would be like saying if you have red hair you would have to vote Labour. It's a ridiculous assumption. And it's disgusting because it actually criticises homosexuality. Communism is an extreme form of socialism. Please also point out to be where I said it was ok to be xenophobic and racist just not anti gay? I never posted that.

POSTED BY True Blue 06 Nov 2008


henry

As I noted in my original post modern right wing politics express racist and xenophobic view points therefore in supporting them one is logically supporting these view points also. Re your socialism and communist comaprison you if you honestly see them as one in the same there is no point in me addressing that point further.

POSTED BY henry 06 Nov 2008


True Blue

'... modern right wing politics express racist and xenophobic view points'. What a sweeping generalisation there. As if people on the left can't be racist, anti-gay or xenophobic. Socialism is a softer version of communism. My original point was that sexuality has nothing to do with political beliefs. I'm right wing/conservative and queer. I am not a racist nor do I have anything against foreign folk.

POSTED BY True Blue 06 Nov 2008


MacFheorais

Alas, right wing gays are nothing new... look at Ernst Röhm. I don't get it myself. And True Blue, the only gay that be right wing is a self loathing gay. Its like a black KKK member, its simply nn oxymoron. What normal balanced individual would support political movements that oppress who and what they are as individuals? Oh, and wake up call for you, sweetie, when you say "I'm right wing/conservative and queer. I am not a racist nor do I have anything against foreign folk", thats utter rubbish... the very definition of right wing is policies around conservatism/nationalism:- that's "traditional" values, racism, and xenophobia. If you're none of these, then you're not right wing. If you're gay and call yourself right wing, you need to see a counsellor about your self esteem issues.

POSTED BY MacFheorais 09 Feb 2009


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